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p.herm.12 II - Anfang III (?)
Letter from Diomedes to Serenus via HGV-meta
Letter from Diomedes to Serenus about Cretan material and a craftsman. A private letter from Diomedes to Serenus, whom he calls his most honoured son, thanking him for his efforts and expressing hope that the material obtained through a craftsman is of Cretan quality, though much waste resulted from processing. It dates to the 2nd or early 3rd century AD and comes from Hermopolis. machine translation
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TM 28724.
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- Letter from Diomedes to Serenus HGV-meta unbekanntII - Anfang III (?)
Inscriptions (1)
Inscription #1
· Greek
· Greek
Transcription
[r]
Διομήδης Σερήνωι τῶι τιμιωτάτωι
υἱῷ χαίρειν.
τὴν ἀπὸ σοῦ γενησομένην πρὸς ἡμᾶς
σπουδὴν ἀκριβῶς ᾔδειν καὶ παρʼ Ἡλιοδώρου ὁμοίως ἐπυθόμην καὶ ἀπὸ τῶν σῶν γραμμάτων, οἷς πιστεύσας καὶ τῇ τοῦ τεχνίτου ἐπαγγελίᾳ Κρητικὴν ὑπολαμβάνω ἐσχηκέναι,
καὶ οὕτως ἐπὶ τοῦ ἔργου φανῆναι εὔχομαι,
εἰ καὶ ἀπὸ τῆς πολλῆς κατεργασίας τὰ κροκύδια πλείονα ἐγένετο τῆς καθαρᾶς.
ἐρρῶσθαί σε εὔχομαι καὶ ἐπιστέλλειν
περὶ ὧν ἐὰν θέλῃς. ἀσπάζεταί σε Δημήτριος καὶ πάντες οἱ ἐμοὶ καὶ οἱ φίλοι καὶ
γνώριμοι. ἔρρωσό μοι,
τιμιώτατε.
Ἐπειφ β[…]
[v]
Σερήνωι φίλωιTranslations (1)
[recto]
Diomedes to Serenus, his most honoured son, greetings.
I knew well the zeal you would show on our behalf, and I learned the same from Heliodoros and from your letter; trusting in these and in the craftsman's promise, I suppose that I have got Cretan (wool?),
and I pray that it may prove so in the work,
even though, from the extensive working, the flock-waste came to more than the clean (wool).
I pray for your health, and write about whatever you wish. Demetrios greets you, and all my household and friends and
acquaintances. Farewell, I pray,
most honoured one.
Epeiph 2[…]
[verso]
To Serenus, friend
Cross-references (3)
- TM-Text 28724 primary
- DDbDP-Text p.herm;;12 tier-1
- HGV-Text 28724 tier-1
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