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p.laur.4.187 II
Business Letter via HGV-meta
Business letter about olives seized by the gymnasiarch Dios. A business letter concerning a consignment of olives that the gymnasiarch Dios locked away after inspecting them, before agreeing on a price. The writer defends the quality of the olives, complains that fish sent through Ammonios never arrived, mentions travelling with camels, and scolds the recipient for not dating his letter. Dated Thoth 11, 2nd century AD. machine translation
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Transcription
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[…]…ασμ…[…]γραφε…[…]…[…]
[…] τὴν γὰρ ἐπιστολὴν ου[…]γράφων· γράφεις γάρ μοι
διὰ τῆς ἐπιστολῆς ὅτι εὐθέως εἰληφὼς τὰ ἔλαια ἐνέκλεισεν
πάντα ὁ γυμνασίαρχος Δῖος τολμήσας ἐπιτεθεωρηκέναι πότερον καλά ἐστιν ἢ οὐ. αὐτὸ δὲ μ[…]φημε ὅτι ἐμε…λα
[…] πάντα γὰρ τὰ ἔλαια ἅ ἔπεμψά σοι καλά ἐστιν χωρὶς μόνων τεσσάρων οὓς ὑπονοῶ ὀλίγως πυρρὰ εἶναι καὶ αὐτὰ π…
[…]… τοὺς τέσσαρας μετρητὰς […]ξάμην ἐκ τοῦ ὅλου τα[…]…υτου καὶ εἰσιν καλοὶ α…[…]ει αὐτὸ μόνον ἀλλὰ π[…]
[…] πρὸς σύγκρισιν τῶν ὅλων[…]γράφεις ἐνκεκλεισθαι τὰ ἔλαια ὑπὸ τοῦ γυμνασιάρχου οὔπω συμπωνήσαντος[…]…τον τιμὴν τοῦτο…[…] τῶν ἀνθρώπων
[…] ἐπεὶ λέγεις μοι τὸν γυμνασίαρχον ἀγοράζειν
[…]…ν τοὺς ἐλαιοπωλοῦντας ἕως ἐγὼ παραγένωμαι
[…].
σὺν θεῷ γὰρ καὶ ἐγὼ μετὰ τῶν καμήλων ἔρχομαι
[…].
καὶ ἔγραψάς μοι ὅτι διεπέμψω μοι φάγρον καὶ κύνα διὰ Ἀμμωνίου· ἴσθι ὅτι οὐδέν μοι ἀπέδωκεν αὐτῶν.
τὴν δὲ σὴν ἐπιστολὴν διὰ φάσεως ἀνενήνοχέν μοι
Ποτάμων τις, ἵνα εἰς ὑπάντησιν τῶν καμήλων γένωμαι
ἐν τῶι Ἀφροδεισίῳ. ἐπείπερ γίνονται εἰς Ἀμμωνιακήν, εὐθέως ἀπέλυσα Ὀφέλλιον ἐκεῖ ἵνα μοι τὸ ἥμισυ τῶν καμήλων ἐνέγκῃ
καὶ[…] ἀπὸ σοῦ τὴν ἐπιστολὴν καὶ δίεπεμψάμην σοι τὸ γυμνασι[…] ἐπείπερ […]εγραψάμην τῶν ἐλαίων· ἀλλὰ
φύλαξον ἕως ἐγὼ παραγένωμαί σοι. καὶ ἔδει σε ἐνγεγραφέναι τὴν ἡμέραν τῆι ἐπιστολῇ καὶ τὸν μῆνα ὅπως
εἴδω ποσταίᾳ μοι ἠνέχθη. ἀσπάσαι Ἑλένην καὶ Θαῆσιν
καὶ Πτολέμαν καὶ Μηνᾶν καὶ τοὺς παρʼ ἡμῶν πάντας.
ἐρρῶσθαί σε εὔχομαι
Θὼθ ιαTranslations (1)
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[…] … […] write(s) (?) […]
[…] for the letter […] writing; for you write to me
[in your] letter that immediately on [receiving] the olives the gymnasiarch Dios shut [them all] away, having dared to inspect whether they are good or not. But this […] I say (?) that […]
[…] for all the olives which I sent [you] are good, except [only] four which I suspect are slightly reddish, and these too […]
[…] the four metretai […] I […] from the whole […] and they are good […] only this, but […]
[…] for comparison with the whole […] you write that the olives have been shut away by the gymnasiarch before he has yet agreed on […] price, this […] of the people
[…] since you tell me that the gymnasiarch is buying
[…] the olive sellers until I arrive
[…].
For with God's help I too am coming with the camels
[…].
And you wrote to me that you sent me a sea bream and a dogfish through Ammonios; know that he delivered none of them to me.
A certain Potamon brought me [your] letter by word of mouth (?), that I should go to meet the camels
at the Aphrodision. Since they are going to the Ammoniake, I immediately sent Ophellios there so that he might bring me half of the camels. ⟦and the gymnasiarch wanted you to have another three metretai of the oil and that all be …⟧
⟦… my visit; for these …⟧ and […] the letter from you [and] I sent you the gymnasi[…] since […] I wrote of the olives; but
keep them until I come [to you]. And you ought to have written the day and the month in the letter so that
I might know on what day it was brought to me. Greet Helene and Thaesis
and Ptolemas and Menas and all our people.
I pray for your health.
Thoth 11
Cross-references (3)
- TM-Text 28768 primary
- DDbDP-Text p.laur;4;187 tier-1
- HGV-Text 28768 tier-1
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