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Letter from Ioannes to the anchorite Apa Elisaios about gold and skins TM 86786Theben (Ägypten)1. Hälfte VII

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A Coptic letter from Ioannes to the anchorite Apa Elisaios reporting that he has sent items by Philemon and has questioned a man named Victor, who denied receiving gold in connection with a skin or leather transaction. He asks Elisaios to send word south about whether payment will be made for the skin to come. It dates to the first half of the 7th century AD, from the monastic community at Thebes.

In English machine translation

[recto] See, the scales (?), I have sent them by Philemon, comforting (?) and good (?), which I placed until […] so that men should not see them. Now concerning the answer of the brother: I sent for Victor and brought him in to the monastery (topos); I spoke with him and he admitted to me: "I did not receive any gold that I might separate any skin (?)." But he who received it, he received it for the skin that will be separated. Do the charity: if you will send a man south before I come out, send the answer to him, if he is persuaded that we should give them for the skin that is coming, which will be separated, whether through him or through someone else, we will give them. Let him send the answer to us through the one whom you will send. I greet your holy fatherhood before everything. Farewell for many, many years. [verso] Give it to our beloved honoured God-loving [father] Apa Elisaios the anchorite, from [Ioann]es the […]

Several Coptic words in the opening (here 'scales', 'comforting', 'good') and the noun ϣⲁⲣ ('skin, hide') with the verb 'separate' are of uncertain sense, so the business details are tentative.

Working translation of the DDbDP edition, made with Claude Opus 5.5 from the edition and the catalogue records shown below (catalogued as Letter). It has not been reviewed by a papyrologist: check the edition before citing. Restorations follow the edition; […] marks lost text and (?) an uncertain reading.

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Papyri.info — HGV (Heidelberger Gesamtverzeichnis) — metadata · Accession no. 14.1.483 · 1. Hälfte VII · Theben (Ägypten)